Many people compare Krishna and Karna, in Mahabharata and quickly choose the side of Karna. Not even when five children were born. It is not possible, since in the Dwaapar Yug, Caste system did not exist, but, Varna system existed. In my opinion, as Pranav indicated in a prior post, the single biggest mistake Karna made was when he took part in killing Abhimanyu while disregarding all the rules of war. Where is Yudhistir's wisdom visible in that? Seeing Arjuna's skill ...Drupada builds an elaborate plan involving handing over Draupadi to Arjuna so that he can use Arjuna as a leverage against Drona . Draupadi was born to be humiliated in her life....so whatever actions she performed in Mahabharata was just to be get humiliated by other characters! History praises those who win. Right thing should have been accepting her as wife, and then doing "tyag/renunciation" for Arjun so that she remained respected in the society. As far as Draupadi's vastraharan is concerned, she insulted Karna in her swayamwar(no mere rejection as most people say), Karna even lost his son on that day due to the chaos. As the conversation between the five Pāṇḍavas below shows, they had developed feelings for Draupadī sometime during or after the archery contest so it's possible the backstory that 'Kuntī mistakes Draupadī for alms and then orders them to share' was invented later to justify five men marrying the same woman which was forbidden at the time. Nope. In BORI’s version, Karna takes part in the Swayamvar but failed in the task. I know, let's have the swords drawn out against me ! Our audience is familiar with the popular version of the story in which Draupadi rejects Karna. 'Daughter of Drupada'), also referred as Panchali and Yajnaseni, is the tragic heroine, one of the central characters and the common wife of the Pandavas in the Hindu epic, Mahabharata.She is described to be the most beautiful woman of her time and was prophesied to bring a major change in the future. Note that Pandu did not give similar share to his blind brother before. Karna, the noble one, the virtuous one, the charitable one, the son of the Sun God himself, had a life which seemed to be one long suffering. He gave milk to Ashwasthama as his parents were giving flour mix water as a milk to him due to their poor financial conditions, only he recognised true qualities of Karna and made him king despite his low birth. Arjuna was not the one in the epic who spoke about his agony or what he was going through. However every Pandav and Krishna used unethical means during the war and used every chance at all times to remind Karna of his low caste. Hare Krsna TV - ISKCON Desire Tree 5,789 views. krishna 17 times ran away from jarasandha who is defeated by karna after 21days of battle.how should u r saying krishna can kill karna. what he said then was his downfall and a word of frustration of really angry man. So Krishna tries to trick Karna through words. If she would not insult Karna, Karna would never insult her. It contains all kinds of sheds. In Gita Lord Krishna himself said that among Pandavs Arjuna is best.Karna was danveer. Anoop - i see that too. Rakhi – Krishna and Draupadi. Due to this confusion arises among scholars and common people. Because if we don’t understand our own books in the correct manner, then who does. Lord Krishna praised Karna even during the battle between Arjuna and Karna. Because if Draupadi does not reject Karna, then people do not sympathise with Karna. Legend has it that In Every Age of Man (Yugs), when the human race had foregone its virtues and given in to desire and greed, the Gods bring in havoc and pave way for a new age of Man. Sahadeva’s spiritual capabilities were so advanced that he could have become a Prophet but he preferred to continue in his existing role in assisting Yudhishthira. Duryodhan commanded that respect.Kunti abandoned her child, and still did not have guts to accept him back. O Duhsasana, seize the garments of the Pandavas and the robes of Draupadi and hand them over to Sakuni". Now the problem is that there are many retellings of Mahabharata which are sometimes contrasting in nature. People do charity to gain back anything in return. Some passages from BORI’s critical edition and their meaning which proves whether Draupadi rejects Karna or not: धृष्टद्युम्न उवाच|| Karna's revenge cannot be justified but he had already payed for his sins during his lifetime. In Tamil there is a movie called Karnan acted by the indomitable Shivaji Ganesan. If husbands themselves disrespect then Karna disrespecting her should not have any value, especially since he did not use the word "vaishya". Abhimanyu's death is the only thing that goes against Karna. He used the word unchaste, meaning not pure. Even when Arjuna killed Karna's sarthi...karna not even by mistake shot an arrow that might hurt Arjuna's saarthiafter his truth was revealed...Krishna compared how small pandav were to KarnaKrishna, Karna and Bheesma were noblest of all people. Krishna told Draupadi to reject Karna at the Swayamvar because... Duryodhana knows that he cannot accomplish the tough trial to overcome to win her hand, he has immense confidence in his friend Karna's skills. While you have highlighted the negative side of Karna, which is acceptable becuase he insulted Draupadi. Arjuna rescued them. He left the kingdom for personal grief, knowing fully well, that Dhritarashtra was blind, and as per Vidur, unable to manage the kingdom.Pandu should have returned when Yudhistir was born. Is it true or not. Oh please!Did you know that in the original story she doesn't say anything? The 4 important relations in the life of anyone are maata pita guru bhagwan. Lord Krishna asked Karna how he knew that the Pandavas would win the war, to which he replied, "Kurukshetra is a sacrificial field. But they also did some wrong thing which were against the Kshatiya law of that time. There is no statement to that effect in the Mahabharata. The Vastraharan Scene.. .. When Krishna met Draupadi, he told her. I guess the term ' Bhikshaa' was a complement to Draupadi ..!!! Just to add to his arguments - when Yudhishtra laments at Krishna was blinding him to the fact that Karna was indeed his brother and used him to kill Karna, Krishna laughs it off and says - "why do you keep blaming yourself as if you killed Karna? - Duration: 5:10. Also read that few of them still are alive even today.Google Mahaavatar babaji kripacharya . नन्दको बाहुशाली च कुण्डजो विकटस्तथा ||३|| Okay .. The so called Jambu - Folktale has it’s own story of evolution. Yudhistir? This means that Karna is invited in the Swayamvar. But we should also learn that despite get insulted, we must keep our mind calm. He is the avatar of Lord Vishnu. Why compare?! It is Karna who stands out the entire episode . विविंशतिर्विकर्णश्च सहो दुःशासनः समः ||१|| तव अकृतास्त्रेण = No knowledge of the weapon From the above discussion, we can conclude that Karna participated in Draupadi’s Swayamvar and failed in the task. If Karna had extreme loyalty towards Duryodhan it is understandable because at the other end, he sees no rights and claims to throne, nor decent behavior.Draupadi's humiliation was wrong. He proved that a person can not recognized by his birth (Janma), a person is recognized by his work (Karma). Thanks & do comment in case you see any discrepancy, These are just my understanding and I could be wrong. I would say he still achieved nirvana because of his generous nature, and loyalty. Latter you came to know that woman who rejected you became the wife of five husbands... How you will feel. Draupadi did not tell regret words to Karna, but she confessed during the exile in 13 year near some lake. MUST READ: How Karna died in Mahabharata? यत = If In a very tangential sense, I agree with The Chronicler. After extensive research of 60 years, they came up with “The Critical Edition of the Mahabharata”. She forgave Jayadratha after he abducted her. One cannot know who their biological mother and/ father is until & unless told by her. दवीजा: = O Brahmanas, If still in doubt, you can check the English meaning of Sanskrit words from here: http://spokensanskrit.org/. Karna, the one who called his wife names and insulted her in the Sabha. But he chose not to. युयुत्सुर्वातवेगश्च भीमवेगधरस्तथा | Now, when a crown prince was treated as such throughout, and suddenly demoted, resentment is natural in the mind of Dhritrashtra. So where are they !!! Karna was already killed 5 times before; you just finished off an already dying prey".1) When Indra asked for his armour2) When Kunti asked for the wish of Karna not killing anyone else but Arjuna3) When Parasuram cursed karna that he will forget the mantras to invoke astras4) When a sage cursed him that his chariot will be stuck in mud and his charioteer abandoned him at that juncture.5)When Krishna disguised as a brahmana asks for Karna's punyas (good deeds) as a gift - this is because Karna will not die on the battlefield because Lady Dharma will be protecting him from all harm/that mortal shot from Arjuna's bow - karna becomes impenetrable at that point and therefore unconquerable - Krishna takes away that from him and then Karna is killed.Now the interesting point to note here is:When Karna is almost dead/dying - Krishna is so pleased with Karna because even at that point, he did not refuse to donate - as far as Karna was concerned nothing belonged to him - Austerity - that is the foremost principle which a brahman should adhere to.So when Krishna asked Karna for his wishes, Karna's wishes were:1) When he dies on the battlefield, his real mother (kunti) should be informed and she should cry for his death for the whole world to hear his true heritage/lineage - he was denied this opportunity in life, at least let it be granted in death.2)If because of his orientation on the battle (alignment with the Kauravas), he is to suffer the process of rebirth - he wanted to be born as a brahman in a worthy family - the reasoning was, that the one thing that he could not do when he was Karna was provide Anna Dhaana - giving away food to the poor - because people did not want to eat the food fed by a person of questionable lineage.The most impressive part in this is, that when people are dying - they usually wish for either a protraction of life or for easing of suffering and the irony is that Karna asked for those just as any other person would do: He wanted to ease his suffering (not from wounds) but from shame he had to go through all his life of being a son of a charioteer and he wanted a continuation in life so that he can do the one thing that was denied to him in his previous birth - The ability to donate food.Karna was the only person to whom Krishna revealed one of his many forms - the form where he sits on Garuda!Karna was indestructible - and therefore had to be "put down" in an indirect way - if not for all other stories in Mahabharatha - one of them should suffice:Arjuna and Karna were engaged in a mon-a-mono combat and Arjuna hit Karna's chariot with an arrow, which dislodged karna's chariot by a hundred paces. She forgave Ashwathama for killing all her sons and brothers because she didnt want Kripi to lose both husband and son.Please do not disrespect this great woman. (perhaps that is the reason why Modi, being knowledgeable in such matters, took his oath as PM during that period of the day) So, Krishna was merely mentioning that Draupadi along with other queens and princesses would come to Karna's coronation. That, he was able to be that good in spite of such difficult circumstances, is what I feel makes him the most admired character in Mahabharata. The typical reasons are because he was abandoned as a child, he was cheated by Krishna, he should have been treated as their brother, he was loved by Dhuryodhana and because he never said 'no' to anybody. Karna angered by this retaliated in sort and Arjuna's chariot bared moved a few inches and to this Krishna shouted "Baley Karna!" I'm female.. and i would insult Draupati as well. Were they really warriors?There are many such instances where pandavas n kurus both were at fault. Though I would think a person of Karna's nature and stature should definitely not have joined in killing of Abhimanyu. Mahabharat is the story of rivalry of brothers and how Krishna help Pandavas to win their rightful Kingdom. On the other hand Pandavas were also good human beings and followed path of righteousness. If you've read about Vaishnaism or even Gita what Vishnu implies is that every Human is just a Human, as men throw away their desire and bonding to material things, we are one step closer to reaching gods. No sane person would hand over a shield that can protect his life on the eve of war to his biggest enemy 's father (Indra). Is it true or not. It means that if kings like Karna and Shalya who are world famous and well versed in the Dhanur Vidya (archery skills) failed in the task, then how this weak Brahmin (referring to Arjuna) who has no knowledge of weapons succeed in the test? When Karna tried to compete, she certainly didn’t favor him in any way. Karna – “They are not my brothers. I quote the passage from Mahabarath only to prove that Karna's hatred for the Pandavas was so huge that it clouded his every judgement.Krishna showed clearly that he too is capable of deceit, to achieve the ultimate goal. He did not ignore Draupadi. They all did what they had to do. One of the popular stories in our mythology is that of Lord Krishna and Draupadi, the wife Pandavas. I have intruded a lot on your generosity and thnak you for that .. [:)] ...Let me assure you that , I havent written this in view of a confrontation , merely putting doen my thoughts .. This clearly evident when he donates the fruits of all his good deeds including this one. एते चान्ये च बहवो धार्तराष्ट्रा महाबलाः |, अथोदतिष्ठद्विप्राणां मध्याज्जिष्णुरुदारधीः ||१||, यत्कर्णशल्यप्रमुखैः पार्थिवैर्लोकविश्रुतैः |, तत्कथं त्वकृतास्त्रेण प्राणतो दुर्बलीयसा |, बटुमात्रेण शक्यं हि सज्यं कर्तुं धनुर्द्विजाः ||५||, तव अकृतास्त्रेण = No knowledge of the weapon, Yaksha Prashna – Riddle contest between Yudhishthira & Yaksha (Crane), Barbarik Story: Strongest warrior in Mahabharata – Finish war in 1 minute, Different names of Karna in Mahabharata | Karna is not his original name, https://mythgyaan.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/draupadi_rejects_karna.mp4, Different names of Karna in Mahabharat | Karna is not his original name, 34 Amazing Death Note Quotes (& Images) That Will Make You Think, 18 Amazing Facts About Maharana Pratap That Will Blow Away Your Mind, Why you cannot do charity without self-realization, Battle of Dewair/Diver (1582) – When Maharana Pratap defeated Mughals, 50 Amazing Harry Potter Quotes That Will Change Your Life, According to Manu Smriti, the people who have a Kshatriya father and Brahmin mother are of. If he does then, is he failed in the task? No . 5:10. In this section, Vaishampayana says that Jishnu (or Arjuna) get up from the group of Brahmanas to take part in Draupadi’s Swayamvar when all the kings gave up and failed in the task. Another reason could be due to TRP (Television Rating Point). Karna was the great person but because of his words about Panchali made him evil from the Pandavas view.He preferred Durodhanas side was not his falt. – SECTION CLXXXIX. Dharma is a word that is used to define Hinduism. To remove the confusion, Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute (BORI) came up with the idea of a critical version. No. He always wanted to know who it was who let him off in the river in that little box. Karna, in fact, abused Draupadi in the Kuru court, called her a “bandhaki”, meaning a prostitute, and instigated Dushshsasana to disrobe her. Hence he is the yeldest brother of Pandavas. Even Arjun? Karna was a noble soul who became victim of circumstances. कथं = how There is a common belief in South India that Draupadi was also an incarnation of Maha Kali. Still he was about to help draupadi....if krishna was even a moment late, karna would've killed Dushashan. - This is not only to show Karna's true strength, it is also a lesson to Arjuna in the art of appreciating true strength's of the opponent. Long before Pandavas were into the picture, Draupadi sought Krishna. Draupadi and Krishna epitomise the notion that ‘a man and a woman can be just friends’. Your five brothers will stand by you. Don't make only debate, take lessons from the Great epic Mahabharata. Whoever has some knowledge of Mahabharata should be aware of the most popular version of this story. i agree with you CK, people do fail to see the injustice he served on otehrs - but why i admire him is not ocz he is fault less or he is right - but coz he had teh spirit to fight, to back his friend when he knew that he will never succeed - who on his right mind will think that he have got a chance againist krishna? Bheem? and exactly my thoughts! Any arguments could be directed to: [email protected]. Arjun always got what he wanted and also what he did not need, however Karna always gave everything he had but never earned the respect he deserved. Hi Buddy .. Great post .. Arjuna was a puppet made by Dronacharya by sacrificing in the process EKALAVYA and KARNA. Just put yourself in Karnas position. It is none of them . My point is we cannot ignore or object our Puranas, unless and until we have any solid proofs/ points to defend our statements. परायणैः = well versed But seeing Karna, Draupadi loudly said, ‘I will not select a Suta for my lord.’ Then Karna, laughing in vexation and casting a glance at the Sun, threw aside the bow already drawn to a circle. So Vishnu just protects and balances off the world, thus ensuring the destruction of Karna who was supposed to be indestructible.These are just my opinions... God is far too great for us to understand...p.s. This was the comment that he passed .. and yes, do note that he opposed the Vastraharan scene considering it beneath his stature .... Now, you all blame Karna for telling the god-awful truth , but none of you guys actually point a finger at the Pandava ( Yudhisthira ) who had never won Draupadi as a rightful wife but still deemed to put her as a baazee in the game . They collected and compiled the most authentic & oldest shlokas from all the versions of Mahabharata prevalent in different parts of the subcontinent. Many scholars having been amazed by the depth of their relationship have often suggested that there was more to Krishna Draupadi friendship than met the eye. He even admired Arjuna's abilities...was proud of his little brother, but he swore to kill arjuna...that is the only reason he let other 4 pandavs live and not all five.Karna's story is not just about his greatness and story of how was he wronged....but its also a really sad story of how such a great man fell.Even Ashwatthama was an awesome man...fate just had them on the wrong side in battle field. !You see, history if often written by those who screwed heroes ... .. And oh ! नानृतं = could not Hello dear friends,i would also like to add what i have understood from what all i have read about Mahabharata. He also knows how much she loathed Karna. So, the question of Karna protecting Drauapdi from Shishupala doesn’t arise. tell me honestly, would you respect a woman who consistently bitches and argues.. who seeks revenge on everyone.. who makes fun of blind people.. who thinks she is all that? Karna was the most powerful warrior after Bheeshm & Drona. All the Pandavas will welcome you. He had qualities of 'Kshatriyas' though he was 'Suta putra' His qualities made him the king of Anga. http://blog.thitherwards.com/draupadi/ Draupadi Amman Thunai - May you all be BLESSED by HER grace!! Chopra’s Mahabharat or its recent 2013 remake on Star Plus named Mahabharat sticks to the popular storyline? Kunti is your mother and your father is Surya.” Suddenly, Karna broke down. It clearly indicates that Karna also failed in the task as he is one of the kings. Karna was known as daanveer Karna. But the fact is Karna possessed all 5 of those qualities.. then why didnt krishna allow draupadi to marry him.. Infact it was Krishna who reminded her of her rights to chose whom she would like to marry.As far as the Viraat war is concerned Karna didnt run away.. Duryodhana got injured while fighting with Arjuna, so karna like a true friend took him to safety. Nevertheless, if you got time, patience and willingness to know about 'Draupadi', you can visit my blog and comment. Krishna was testing how much can Karna sacrifice and how much is he taken up by greed. He tells him "win her for me, my friend" so she would be … what makes u think that arjuna is a hero he always have krishna on his back somehow or the other he helps arjuna.If u see in mahabharath there are very few situations where arjuna never fights alone in the case of karna he always fight aloneU say karna insulted a draupathi in the first place pandavas insulted there own wife what kind of moron bets his own wife u call them herosi dont think so1. dharmashastra - the truth behind my dharma, Peri Peri Decent - Nando's, Phoenix Mall, Velachery, Chennai. I truly agree,even kunti knew karn was her son, she never convinced pandav not to insult saying sutputra.though karn was alleged to involve in saying draupadi a VAISHYA but non of the pandav were disagree on the saying of draupadi a suputra to karn..How karn left the compony of duryodhan who had given a respect and honor in the adverse aura..Karn never joined duryodhan intentionally,, when all rejected him even he was meant to deserve all equivalent to Arjuna.. उग्रायुधो बलाकी च कनकायुर्विरोचनः ||२|| during swamber before Karna nobody could lift the dhanush , but Karna lifted it , then Maan Draupdi asked to Lord Sri Kirhsna what to do . 8. Sorry, but it's true.. she's conniving, mean, and she had 4 men. धनुर्वेदा = archery सुकुण्डलश्चित्रसेनः सुवर्चाः कनकध्वजः | When Karna asks Arjuna to follow the rules of war and wait till he gets the wheels out of the ground, Krishna counsels Arjuna to ignore it and deliver the death blow because Karna himself never followed those rules when Abhimanyu was killed (who just conveniently happens to be Arjuna's son).One thing everyone forgets is, in the entire history of epics, Mahabharata is the only instance where divinity bows to humanity (Krishna literally asks Karna for forgiveness for all the travails he caused him). This does not sit well with many. The living example is all says Bhisma, Drona and Karna were on Adharma side because they had lost and killed. Caste system has arisen in the current Yug, i.e., Kali Yug. 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